That and climbing tf is the point of making me crawl across and up a conveniently glowing grapple area. I remember rage quitting the uncharted game remakes for this since that was 50% of the game
Yeah. Especially since there's usually no win condition. The target will always rubberband to be way ahead of you until you arrive at the destination you're supposed to be at.
That’s why I appreciated the chase in AC2 (might be brotherhood) in one of the secret tombs where you can actually catch him and prevent him from warning the other guards if you do the chase quick enough.
Gives it actual stakes and a win condition and it’s way more exciting for it
Spider-Man kinda made sense as a big focus was utilizing the very unique and well done traversal mechanics.
I mean wouldn’t it be a little disappointing if you had the iconic and extremely well-done web swinging mechanic and all you used it for was going from mission to mission?
As for here, this chase sequence was like 15 seconds and lead to a fight…. Idk why people are getting so worked up about it.
I think its hand holding but using his senses as a coat of paint to make it feel more natural
Like yea, what we're seeing in that red streak is probably a visual representation of the scent that is being left behind that logan is smelling, but its being used as a way to hold your hand incase you lose sight of the guy in red running 10 feet in front of you through what is essentially a 1 way hallway
Also, gotta slow down the chase sequence or players might get overwhelmed. Funny how wolverine jumps like he's on the moon but his sprint is the speed of a casual jog.
I think its supposed to represent his tracking ability as he has heightened senses like smell, but i get your criticism. A lot of games like to hold your hand with these scenarios.
Developers have constantly stated that the red line and things like it are necessary because believe it or not there are MANY people who would 100% get lost, and then get frustrated.
Option to turn it off is the best of both worlds though.
Also, weren't they actual chase sequences, like if you played well you could catch them early, and if you suck you fail? This chase sequence is just a walking simulator
The game may not look as pretty as modern games do, but it was designed to be rewarding for players who met the game where it was coming from and engaged with all systems.
Systems driven gameplay is one of those things I'm beginning to miss in these big AAA productions...
So lame. I thought we were in a good spot once they started allowing PC release. Personally I'm way more upset about this vs the all-digital future they're selling.
Amazingly short period between Sony claiming the console war victory and Sony panicking about Steam/Microsoft with no more PC ports and diving head first into digital only.
Like damn, the PSN/Helldivers 2/Steam delisting fiasco must have really upset Sony.
Which is hilarious because Helldivers 2 is one of the few times in gaming a studios incompetence actually made the game better.
The whole account linking thing was supposed to be mandatory day one. But because Arrowhead was struggling to work out bugs and the game had really terrible server issues starting out they were told to implement a bypass so Steam users could play. Their initial struggles are actually one of reason the game took off because the bypass allowed anyone and everyone access. If it stayed required? Nobody would have gave that game a chance on PC.
Meanwhile Sony knew all this. They knew the servers were messed up and Sony knew Arrowhead was struggling to fix things. They knew the game was benefiting from being able to be purchased in places PSN didn't exist. And yet there response was? Remove the bypass and force it on everyone!
Like that's tremendous big brain time right there.
You mean price? That doesn't matter to me much, but I'm not going to buy a console to play its exclusives. If I want a game I dont mind paying full price. They can keep their game discounts. Better for customers to make them available. But they dont care about the customers, obviously
I dunno what it is but the game, at least to me, seems like some low quality cash grab riding on marvel/Wolvie hype rather than actual quality gameplay/storytelling
Im open to see how its like, once released but im very sceptical currently
You didn't see the 10/10 "Chasing a guy" gameplay that all gamers universally love?? Where if you are slightly too far away from the guy you're chasing, it makes you start over and your character says the same lines again?
Always seemingly a tough choice for anyone adapting wolverine. He weighs something like 300 lbs. Balancing realism with comic book logic seems to be something they all struggle with regarding wolverine.
With the first gameplay trailer highlighting the "stealth" elements, of Wolverine crouching in a bright yellow suit walking silently on a corrugated metal roof up to an enemy in broad daylight, it's probably too late to turn back. That's probably a 3rd of the gameplay lol
because insomniac is behind it, and they have a pretty great track record with the Spiderman games, Im still somewhat open minded. But this clip alone looks terrible. I actually struggle to find something to compliment about it. Movement looks really stiff, guy ahead looks completely artificial and lifeless how they move, the graphics are super generic. And why are we still doing pointless chase sequences, is there really nothing else that devs can come up with? The fact they thought this would have been good promo material is very concerning.
But again insomniac has made some great games, so it's not like they dont know what they are doing. But damn.
Yep. Looks like something that's gonna make you start over if you're 25 feet behind him instead of 20 but then magically speed up if you get too close.
If you had the ability to flex your movement skills, maybe speccing into my different skills to transverse the world, and using the kit you built to solve the problem at hand.
He has a voice line right up at the end that summarises how I feel about these shitty corridor chase sequences "what the hell I don't have time for this"
Fair. I do think the game looks fun overall, but this is definitely a bad clip to suggest that. Chase missions makes some sense in a Spider-Man game where web-swinging is a major part of the gameplay and they want you to get used to it. But like, this is Wolverine. I've....run in video games before....
I don’t mind that type of game but lately it’s the only type of game that their first part studios have been making and that’s boring as hell. I loved the story of ragnarok but my god was that game play dull at times it’s like I’m someone previously known as the god of war why I do feel like the janitor of war?
Agreed, feels too slow, no interesting flow in the movement like in the Spiderman games for example, Wolverine normally can wall jump and traverse on sides to pick up a distance when needed. Here he is just boringly running.
But nothing in this scene makes it feel special. If you told me this was spider man with a Wolverine skin I would believe you.
They should have made Wolverine more of linear game in tight quarters or something to increase action and verocity. The open space and slow speed of Wolverine makes this look like a bore to play.
Of course thats what Sony does. Last of Us. Horizon Zero Dawn. God of war even.
Spider-Man too
It's totally fine not liking the style of games, but you also then have to admit the game just isn't for you. Which I know is a cop out thing to say, but I mean how else do you spin it
I do wonder if Sony have went to the well one too many times with these set piece heavy cinematic games.
I know there's other types of games they make, but this type is a huge chunk of their output. And maybe the similarities between these games are starting to blend in.
I bet in this game there'll be a climbing section where you're pushing forward and there's no fail state.
Oh I’m completely aware they’re not for me. I’m a big gameplay first type of gamer, as such I’m a big souls fan.
I hate this trope, if you can call it that, of having minutes long basically interactive cut scenes, or these super scripted set pieces which appears to be what is in the video.
Are we finally allowed to say this out loud? Everyone acts like Sony exclusives blow the Xbox out of the water and only idiots would buy an Xbox, but yet I can't seem to actually finish any of them.
Except ratchet and clank, I played through that twice.
This game, Uncharted, Spiderman... bah. Scripted sequence -> cutscene -> scripted gameplay. You punch a grunt a couple of times and then press the finisher button to watch a couple seconds of finisher animation, rinse and repeat.
This is why I just don't vibe with any mainline Sony games
Hand are whole ass ninjas. Bro should be jumping and flipping and kicking off walls and stuff. Make it more cinematic. Dude is just running in a straight line with weird posture lol.
Video game companies have gotten so lazy with their wand-wavey "zipline" mechanics.
In Assassin's Creed (not implying that they started the zipline trope, just a notable example), you had to have a special hook for your blade in order to zipline. Nowadays it just seems like whatever the character is holding is adequate to be used to zipline across a map.
One of my favorite things in Deadlock (the valve moba) is that each character rides the zipline a but different to better fit the character model/style
Judging by the comments here, OP posting the chase part rather than the actual gameplay and your downvote, I'd say this sub has an agenda to make this game look bad.
Don't know why but it's rather sad to see bitching about a game looking bad when they are reacting to a single clip of a part that isn't the major focus of the game
Yeah these comments are ridiculously judgmental for what amounts to 10% of the gameplay and probably one single mission in the entire game. Especially considering OP chose to cut off the video the moment that any combat popped up.
I’m probably going to get really hated on, but the content I’ve seen for this game in general doesn’t honestly look that entertaining to me, especially when compared to the Spider-Man games. But yeah, this video in particular doesn’t look that great and I’m really not trying to stir up anything. I love insomniac.
I don't think you will get hated on the more I see the more drab, boring, uninspired and wait for deep sale this game is turning out to be especially for a stacked out September with Onimusha and other titles hitting around the same time.
I feel you. I think its because Wolverine as a character is more fun to watch than to play because of his ability set. A movie or comic can fast forward traversal but in a game he doesnt really have movement like that. Whereas Spider-Man is ALL traversal.
That’s honestly exactly how I feel when I first heard it was announced. My first thought was what are they going to do with him? There’s considerably less concepts they can do with him then with Spider-Man in terms of gameplay.
Right! I know Wolverine has animalistic tendencies in the comics but he still has no traversal and his personal villains aren't really that interesting.
If you commented this on a Sony, marvel or insomniac sub you are for sure getting shit on. Superheros are played out for me but I still had high hopes for such a classic character. Everything I've seen makes it seem like it's on rails and you just tap a button when Jean tells you to after smashing X or whatever.
Not going lie this doesn’t look that impressive, even the dedicated gameplay segment we had a few months back looked just okay. Sony games are really just starting to look and play all the same…
Cool but people are acting like this is the entire game. A mission that most likely constitutes 1% of what you’ll be doing in the course of this game = garbage running simulator slop in these people’s minds. It’s actually ridiculous.
I was hoping they'd either augment his movement abilities with gadgets to make him more interesting in an open world, or they should've made the game more linear. I was worried about this exact issue and unfortunately, it looks like movement is gonna quite boring and combat will be the only good thing. Bit of a shame coming from the Spider-Man games where just moving around the city on its own was fun.
I just want to point out that the red line is clearly meant to be a scent trail mechanic that fades as the target gets farther away. It makes sense as a thing for Wolverine to have.
Reddit is weird. A lot of people like myself, make accounts and forget to make a username so Reddit gives you one. Once it’s too late you cannot change it at all.
I'm not a linear game or scripted gameplay hater. I loved Uncharted and it's basically that with some arenas in-between. But this doesn't look very good, seems to me you are just pressing forward. This game hasn't intrigued me in any trailer or video I've seen
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u/Sure_Distribution809 13h ago
Thank god they put a big red line otherwise you might get lost in that hallway